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| Old Type Retro Flames; Advice on best way to do flames | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 29 2010, 08:32 AM (964 Views) | |
| wendy | Aug 29 2010, 08:32 AM Post #1 |
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I have been given a scooter to paint a 50s type flame design, not true fire. He wants them going from yellow thro to orange ending in red. The edge not outlined (thank goodness). The scooter is black. Have been looking at what paint to use and was thinking Auto Air Semi Opaque Flame Yellow, Flame Orange, Flame Red, with a white sealer base underneath. Are these the best paints to use for this design? I intend doing the design freehand as each side doesn't have to be mirror image and was wondering if it would be better to draw on with chalk then cut frisket to suit, or go straight on with fine line tape. I am a bit worried the tape will lift round the radius when it has been on for a while, as I want to work on all the parts at the same time and I am a slow worker. It looks straight forward, but is anything straight forward! Any info or advice would be appreciated! |
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| jeff66 | Aug 29 2010, 11:58 AM Post #2 |
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Hi Wendy, I always use fineline for traditional flames. They never look as good without a pinstripe around them though! You will need a white base, then fade in a nice warm yellow, then fade in your orange and red. I always finish the tips off with a touch of blue. You have to watch for your paint buildup on the edges though, it can get a bit thick towards the ends, and bites you in the ass when unmasking. Good luck! |
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| wendy | Aug 29 2010, 01:40 PM Post #3 |
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Cheers Jeff To reduce the build up, I wouldnt have to paint the yellow the full length of the flames, only sufficient for the overlap of the fading in and the same with the orange, or would I not get a good colour doing it this way? As I am not clearing this job I cant use that to flatten the build up, any magic suggestions? Will go with the blue tips to the flames, sounds a good idea, but as for the pinstriping, never done it , so am going to keep my mouth shut about it looking better. |
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| Svee | Aug 29 2010, 09:47 PM Post #4 |
 
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Hi Wendy. Jeff is spot on as always. Fine line tape is the easiest way of doing it i find and they do indeed look waaaay better with a pinstripe edge to them (you can do it by masking off the edge and spraying rather than brushing if you are careful enough). Heres a guitar ive just finished, to get that yellow/red fade in the background i used Auto Air basecoat sealer white and put down the entire shape i wanted. Then layed down AA transparent yellow. Then trans orange, trans fire red and lastly trans cherry red over the top of the white. If you put a little white on the very edge of the yellow it makes it look even hotter. Like Jeff said, be careful of the buildup on the edges though. I like to spray the whole thing yellow, then take the rest of the paints right to the edge so they each overlap if you know what i mean. Gives you a much richer look and a smoother fade  
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| jeff66 | Aug 29 2010, 11:01 PM Post #5 |
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This may help... One I done a few months back, as the snow is on the ground in the last shot! Fineline  Tapeout  White base  After fading yellow and red and blue tips  Hope that helps Wendy. Jeff |
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| wendy | Aug 30 2010, 07:14 AM Post #6 |
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A BIG help, thanks alot for both info and especially the pics. |
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| jeff66 | Aug 30 2010, 03:10 PM Post #7 |
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Your welcome Wendy. Good luck with it. jeff |
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| wendy | Sep 2 2010, 08:19 PM Post #8 |
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Not been able to start as all stuff I have ordered has not arrived, then whilst planning in my head, three questions came to mind. 1. I noted you centred the design with lines of tape before you started marking the design out, but after that what did you use to mark the outline on the tank. I was thinking chalk or a pastel pencil, but the tape would lift of that or if you put the tape the other side of the line, would it have any effect on the base paint? 2. Does a graphite pencil effect either the tape or the paint? 3. What thickness tape did you use 3mm, 2mm? I have learned so many lessons the hard way, I really appreciate gaining years of experience in minutes via the forum! |
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| wendy | Sep 2 2010, 08:21 PM Post #9 |
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Jeff - just had another thought! You must have done more than the tank in flames, could I be cheaky and ask for pictures of the rest?? |
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| wendy | Sep 3 2010, 10:09 PM Post #10 |
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Dont desert me now!!!!! |
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