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| How Can I Create A Frosted Ice Look? | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 16 2010, 11:43 PM (667 Views) | |
| Zaragon | Mar 16 2010, 11:43 PM Post #1 |
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I'm looking to try and create an effect that I have in mind but which is hard to describe. It will be a kind of frozen water/frosted effect. Sort of a pale blue of frozen water and a slight sparkle from an ice frosting over the top. It's for a freezer trailer that I've got to paint and I want it to look like it is frozen or cold. I thought perhaps about laying down a pearlised white and then a blue candy or transparent blue. I was also wondering if it would be better with a fine aluminium or metalic silver base and again candy or transparent blue. Although I'm looking more for a turquoise->very pale blue. Or can I shift the colour by laying the pearlised white over a blue base? I'm thinking that provided I get the base right this ought to give the effect of sparkling white ice crystals if doesn't have too strong a coverage. Can anyone offer any advice? Ultimately I'll get a few bottles and experiment but if anyone has any experience that will save me money I'd be grateful. I'm also not sure about shooting it through the brushes I've got. I have the Iwata Eclipse which I believe is a .35 and I also have an Infinity 2in1 which I can put the .4 in or do I really need something like a .5 in or bigger in which case any recommendations? I may have some metalics to do in the future so if a larger nozzle is preferred it wouldn't be wasted. |
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| jeff66 | Mar 17 2010, 01:25 AM Post #2 |
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I think the colour you mentioned would work... Look at some AA white flake as well. Great stuff! |
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| Guns | Mar 17 2010, 12:08 PM Post #3 |
Usque ad mortem Bibendum
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If you can find some, try some of Clives favourite additive "VooDoo Dust" in strategic places, it looks magic when the light catches it right 
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| Mr Pid | Mar 17 2010, 06:26 PM Post #4 |
Misunderstood Genius!!
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Ideally - I would go over a metallic or white flake base and use HOK Ice Pearl, White and Blue - this will be perfect for that effect. The only downside is they are not cheap but you very much get what you pay for. It goes a long way though. Alternative will be a Hot Rod Sparkle white maybe!? With Hi-Lite Interface Blue or Purple maybe? If you want to go down the waterbased route. How bit is the size you are painting? Im thinking it may be mini spray gun territory? Defo need the 0.5 if your using flakes though - but they still jam, and its easier to replace the nozzle when finished rather risk contaminating future paint jobs! Can you post pics of your reference / Substrate? Stu |
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| Zaragon | Mar 17 2010, 07:35 PM Post #5 |
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I guess I am guilty of a little to less information, sorry about that. The freezer trailer is about 3 feet long, the box is about 9" tall, and is a model of a full 33ft artic trailer. Probably around 8-10 square feet in total. There is a picture of it here Trailer picture I believe the substrate is an ABS plastic though I haven't checked it yet. I haven't gone looking for any reference pictures just yet, that's on the list of jobs to do. I have in mide the sort of effect I wanted so I'll know it if I find it. I'll be staying away from the solvents Stu, not something I'd be allowed in the house so it will have to be water based. Have Etac dropped the additive powders now as whilst the voodoo dust may be a little colourful for what I had in mind the iridescent blue may have been a contender. |
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| Mr Pid | Mar 17 2010, 08:04 PM Post #6 |
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Misunderstood Genius!!
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Ive got them on the shelf-will have a look tomorrow and see what colours they are! You'll prob need some adhesion promoter of your going over plastic! The highlight interferance colours from aa are true pearls-they only show when he light catches them! Lovely stuff!
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| hacky | Mar 17 2010, 08:23 PM Post #7 |
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im thinking white base,trans blue and opaque white marbelised,youd get that kinda jack frost look... only an idea mind...:) |
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| salem | Mar 17 2010, 08:37 PM Post #8 |
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hi,schminke(aero-color) do a new paint called dark-ice,gives the effect of bieng viewed through ice.....but me thinks it may cost a bit too much to do a complete trailer in this.i think Great art webshop still do Schminke. 
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| Zaragon | Mar 18 2010, 12:13 AM Post #9 |
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That would be great Stu, thanks. I just did the tractor in autoborne red just scuffing the plastic moulding and that stuck with no problems though I haven't masked it. I did knock one part onto the floor whilst spraying a clear coat and got it covered in dirt so I had to sand it back, it wasn't hard but there again it wasn't easy either. There again I was using 1500 grit since I didn't want to score the plastic. Perhaps the small amount of solvent in the AB works in favor here though I don't know if it is a plastics solvent. I haven't seen what the interference colours look like. I assume the colour refers to the interference agent within a transparent carrier rather than the colour of the carrier itself? It seems to be suggested that it works best over dark colours and since what I have in mind is somewhat lighter is it going to become invisible? Any suggestions gratefully received. Hacky I'm assuming you mean pearlised rather than marbleised? I'm guessing that it would have to be dusted on being an opaque though is that what you were thinking. It does sound like you have the idea about what I'm after though. Salem, thanks for the suggestion, I'll take a look but I don't think what I'm trying for is as though I'm looking through ice more as though it is ice with a frosting the Jack Frost look Hacky mentioned. I sort of think of it as the pale blue almost lit from within colour of thick ice with a dusting of ice particles on top just catching the light. Oh and the trailer is only about 3 feet long or is it very expensive stuff? |
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| Zaragon | Mar 18 2010, 12:39 AM Post #10 |
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Just having a quick look at images in one of the search engines I found 3 which have elements of what I'm working towards. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joanpix/95092272/ http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-5425078-frosted.php http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattbrowne/1162116041/ I think the first one is perhaps closest to what I'm after though I'm not looking to be as textured. |
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