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Fire Helmet....how To?
Topic Started: Oct 2 2009, 03:23 PM (1,642 Views)
Clive
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Bear with me as this is a bit of a long subject!

Decided to do a flamed helmet, using the technique I learnt recently (Thanks to Brad de la Torre at Artworld!), and thought I may as well do a step by step as well!

You may remember, back in the mists of time, my first helmet I painted, with metal panels. Well, this became the base for this project, so after rubbing down it got a base layer of black, followed by a pearl black.
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Once that was scuffed back to give a good surface, I masked off the area for my logo to go, and after many hours of weeding, my logo was added! (Thanks goes out to my CraftRobo!! :D)
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I then masked that off, and after a monster session on the Robo, cutting skulls (Thanks to Bob for the DXF’s) I started laying them out, one by one, and giving each one an outline of trans Black! Once they were all laid out, and the masking removed, I went back over them all to add the freehand details. This turned out to be a MASSIVE waste of time as you’ll see later, although I was really pleased with how they came out.
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Next was the flames!! I used a few handcut masks to lay out the outer side of the background in a mix of Trans Red, and pearl gold.
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Once that was heatset, I covered it roughly in Trans Red to bury it ‘back’!
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Then the inside of these were roughed in using pearl gold, and the negative parts of the stencils.
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This was then covered in Trans orange.
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By the next step I was, once again P*ssed off with AA not doing what I wanted it to do (ie stick to a surface without fisheyeing and all sorts!), so I switched to my new favourite paint Comart (was my first, and only paint ‘love’!!).

What would become the yellow parts of the flame were then part-stencilled, part-freehanded on using Comart White mixed with Comart Pearl Additive! As you may have noticed by now, I have pretty much successfully covered up most of my earlier artwork on the skulls (Bugger!!)
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This was then covered with Trans Yellow (Comart) mixed with pearl again!
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At this point I’d got excited about finishing it, so forgot to take pics until it was done!

Another layer of white details were added on, with a fine layer of Yellow/pearl, and then a dusting of Pearl over the whole lot to finish off!
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It’s now had it’s first layer of clear, and once it’s finished, I’ll stick some pics in the Gallery!!!

Clive :copter:
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Very nice matey and thanks for the step by step too B)
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Clive
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Now this is why I don't like AA!!!!

Scuffing the first layer of clear, ready for the next, and I end up with lots of little lifts, almost all of them where the AA had a problem sticking! Alright, I know some of it's probably my prepping fault, but it ALWAYS seems to be when I use AA!!!

Another thing this has bought out is the fact that the old, walking away, having a brew, cigarette etc, break from your work, and then looking at it with 'fresh' eyes really works!

I'm now not 'over the moon' with the top layer of flames, they look too long, and stringy, and too many of them for the surface area, so I'm going to combine the two problems, and fix and re-do as I go!

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Clive, my last 5 helmets have All been AA only. Never saw anything like that! What would cause that?
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Clive
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Me probably buddy!! :wacko: :wacko:

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Well, that may be so... But you still have to find out why? Is the clear coat causing this? Do you lock in your AA with some trans base and heat set correctly?

Is the AA over reduced? I doubt it, Svee paints with coloured water!! :lol: :lol:

C'mon, more details on all your steps on this. To see that happen after all the painting, is soul destroying!

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It was heat set correctly buddy,.

The only thing I can think of is it's something to do with the base coat, as when the AA was going on, I got what were almost like fish-eyes in certain spots (Just can't remember if they were the same spots, but if I was a betting man, I'd say they were!!), nothing in the middle, just almost like a 'halo' of more intense colour around a pale spot!

It was all scuffed, and wiped as I always do for any paint!

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Some sort of contamination? I bet Paul will have an idea. I have seen AA do that right away, but never after it has been cleared! How can it move like that? Oh, I have seen AA move when to much clear has been laid on in one go. But still did not transform into little circles, it slid.
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No buddy, this was as it was going on, not with the clear!!
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AHA! Sorry thought it happend after the clear coat!

What reducer? What type of AA? What pressure? What reduction ratio?
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